Crucial Emirates 777X News

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   Der Schwindel

   August 24, 2020 at 5:00 pm

   yes i am first? IMHO 777x is DOA. A350 is definitely eating the lower B777x market..

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     Johnny W

     August 25, 2020 at 5:28 am

     @Francis By 2035-45, the A350 will not be as competitive as it is right now, since it’ll reach the end of it’s life cycle, thats why they need to come up with another competitive A350 type jet to compete with the high end 777X models with new engines, yes, it’s the same story with the A380. Designed in the early 2000s (2005), but only designed really to last no more than 30 years, so by 2030 its obsolete. Thats why I think the A350 is the perfect jet airbus has made since the original A330 back in 1992

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     Francis

     August 25, 2020 at 5:38 am

     @Johnny W 2045 is too long Airbus and Boeing might have developed electric aircraft with wing blended design.

     2025 the A350 is 10 years old from EIS so perfect for a NEO version.

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     Michael Newman

     August 25, 2020 at 5:54 am

     @Sullivan L tend to agree!

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     Johnny W

     August 25, 2020 at 8:10 am

     @Francis I Agree, Airbus already has concepts like that, Boeing is working on prototypes which aren’t in testing right now.

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     Ndl Ben

     August 25, 2020 at 11:19 am

     @Der Schwindel They will simply order the 777-X as a replacement 777-300ER

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   Aviation Salt Lake City

   August 24, 2020 at 5:00 pm

   Very Nice Upload

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   Aviation Salt Lake City

   August 24, 2020 at 5:01 pm

   Emirates is especially going to have a hard time throughout this Pandemic

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     MasterofBlitz

     August 24, 2020 at 8:47 pm

     All airlines are facing tough situations. I am still waiting on my job situation from my airline HQ to see if I am being retained or not. That is the life of everyone in this industry.

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     Plane Facts

     August 24, 2020 at 9:52 pm

     Which airline do you work for out of interest or would you prefer not to say due to personal reasons etc?

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     MasterofBlitz

     August 24, 2020 at 9:54 pm

     Plane Facts Korean Air.

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     Neil Pountney

     August 25, 2020 at 5:11 am

     @MasterofBlitz I wish you good luck with your future.

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     Richárd OLR

     August 25, 2020 at 6:10 am

     MasterofBlitz Same here 🙁 (LOT)

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   Brett D

   August 24, 2020 at 5:22 pm

   Man I honestly don’t know how many airlines are going to survive this pandemic, they can’t wait another couple of months no one can. I also wish the best of luck to anyone with COVID-19 and hope for a fast recovery.

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     Vaca Albahaca

     August 24, 2020 at 5:36 pm

     Yeah man

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   Stephen46 xre

   August 24, 2020 at 5:58 pm

   777X the right plane at the wrong time.

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     Nick Olliver

     August 24, 2020 at 9:31 pm

     well it will be when demand rises when a380 goes

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     _W_

     August 24, 2020 at 10:36 pm

     @Nick Olliver It’s hard to predict what will happen to all the business travelers. They are serious discussions about trim business travel as people learn how to run business and make deals via phone/Zoom. Don’t assume the demand will return anytime soon.

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     Mike Montgomery

     August 24, 2020 at 10:45 pm

     _W_ if there is no demand, then why would the a350, 330neo or 787 be any better? If anything, Boeing should keep developing the 777x, get rid of any teething problems/growing pains and have a complete aircraft ready to for the market to receive. The plane is late anyway.

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     _W_

     August 25, 2020 at 12:04 am

     @Mike Montgomery Ahhh smaller planes and easier to fill than 777X? duh 🙄!

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     C C

     August 25, 2020 at 1:59 pm

     _W_ you’re very right, companies are now using the covid excuse to trim staff, accelerate the use of technology; business traveling will be reduce to the minimum

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6. 

   Videos For Fun

   August 24, 2020 at 6:08 pm

   I can remember when they knew what their fleet would look like🤩 shame the pandemic disrupted it😥

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   Rithik Dhandapani

   August 24, 2020 at 6:10 pm

   Well it is going to be hard for Boeing as they already have their focus on taking the 737 Max back to the skies and it is also possible that the aircraft manufacturer is facing a cash flow crunch given the fact that there have been no to very very few deliveries / orders by airlines. It might be till late 2025 that Boeing gets things back to normal.

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   Plane Facts

   August 24, 2020 at 6:18 pm

   I’m grabbing popcorn just in case

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   Robert Hamilton

   August 24, 2020 at 6:20 pm

   Thanks !

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10. 

    darryl cabe

    August 24, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    Gr8 reporting and an honest report about the airline future.

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    Jean-Francois Mezei

    August 24, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    Airlines such as Emirates that like to have young fleets do so not just for marketing, but also because their “old” planes are still young enough to have good resale value. This is all changed now because everyone has a surplus of aircraft and there is no demand fof any aircraft.

    If the cost thf the 77X was planhned to be offset by sale of the a 777, but that sale either won’t happen or yield very little revenue, it means the 777X is now costing a whole lot more than originally planned. And if that extra cost is more than any fuel efficiency/maintenabnce cost gains, then it isn’t worth it.

    If the existing fleet has no resale value, then you are better off using them for aas long as you can and then get a replacement. And if you expect the used plane market to recover in a few years, then you postpone your plans for a few years.

    The 380 and 747s are now way too big for current demand. The 777’s economics now required 10 across seating to be competitive. And that is capacity that may be too high for current demand, hence the focus on 787s.

    Your video about Qantas not expecting international services before 2021 is a big alarm bell for wide bodies.

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      Nick Olliver

      August 24, 2020 at 9:25 pm

      Airlines such as Emirates have chosen quite late to streamline their fleet ahahah. their old planes like a380 will end up going for scrap as 3 already have been not long ago. the pandemic has done this to new Airbus and Boeing aircraft that are willing to strive in the modern world. it sucks right now as we want more of these 787 777X and a350s now than old inefficient aircraft.

      Yes, the cost of the 777X is very big but its a lot cheaper to run due to less fuel burn and maintenance cost are low. 777 should also be the same as the -300. fuel costs will be low and .burns a lot less fuel as it has the most economical engine of all widebodies the GE9X

      the existing fleet won’t have any value. the 777-300 will be here after a380 disappears. this is why emirates are using the a380 now to get the most out of them before 777X arrives as the replacement. the used plane market no one ever wants tbh. there is no second-hand market. it’s a shame we have t wait two years for the 777X to be here.

      Yes, the a380 and 747 are way too big for current market the 777s economics are now encouraging a 10 abreast configuration to get a more spacious and wider feel. the demand will pick up whenever that may be and there will be the need for 10 abreast. the best thing is to downsize the big 115 order for more of its younger sis 787.

      well yeah, the big gap for a380s as well. now until 2023 for return. lets see what happens between now and then

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    Haha La

    August 24, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    777x is just too big for pandemic/post-pandemic, too bad.

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      Nick Olliver

      August 24, 2020 at 9:01 pm

      it will be after tho.

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      Haha La

      August 25, 2020 at 2:50 am

      @Nick Olliver true but it’s gonna years to recover

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      Nick Olliver

      August 25, 2020 at 9:26 am

      @Haha La yes but 777x will be here in 2022

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    Mario S.

    August 24, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    Emirates will end up switching half of B777X to B787-9 and B787-10.

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      Sullivan L

      August 24, 2020 at 10:20 pm

      Not too sure about the 787-10. Emirates said it’s engines did not suit the dubai weather but the 787-9 does for sure

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      Johnnie Molina

      August 25, 2020 at 5:46 am

      @Sullivan L Then how come etihad has 787-10s

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      Michael Newman

      August 25, 2020 at 5:59 am

      @Johnnie Molina That may be why Emirates is shying away from Etihad’s experience?

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      Sullivan L

      August 25, 2020 at 9:01 am

      @Johnnie Molina Not too sure, I’m just going off what Sir Tim Clark (Emirates VP) said when asked why he picked the 787-9 instead of -10. Keep in mind that Emirates did orginally want the 787-10 (40 ordered) but according to him, its’ engines did not suit the Dubai weather so they switched it to the 787-9 (30 ordered). Looking at this situation now, they might be adding more 787-9 to that order but I don’t want to speculate because only time would tell.

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      Ralliart

      August 25, 2020 at 12:49 pm

      @Sullivan L I dont think engine performance is a factor it is the superior range of the 787-9 compared to the -10.The -10 has an increased pax capacity but cannot fly as far.

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14. 

    fun-with-nickline

    August 24, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    They should not Rush it the world remembered what they already done those hours,… otherwise real dangers and legit fear flights period🙇‍♂

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    S King

    August 24, 2020 at 11:15 pm

    Beautiful pic of that 380 on initial climb-out with the condensation cloud billowing above the wing … Thumbs up !

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    Andrew Fogarty

    August 25, 2020 at 3:18 am

    Having worked in the airline aviation industry for twenty plus years, but now no longer involved. I therefore have to comment on this your latest Youtube video. If I happened to be Tim Clark and CEO in command of Emirates, I would be doing two things right now, but will get to these a little later. 

    Because of the position all the worlds airlines now find themselves in, where all International passenger travel has all but virtually dried up and hence most airlines are now bringing forward the retirement of some or all of their specific aircraft fleets, yet in contrast at this the same time, there is an enormous demand for airfreight as we shop for products all over the world via the internet. 

    Which now brings me back to Emirates and this YouTube video, firstly I would start taking delivery of some of my 777X orders right now, while at the same time retiring my oldest 777-300ERs, so as to keep Boeing on my good side. Secondly I would be taking those retired 777-300ERs and having them converted into proper purpose useful 777-300 freighters. This would either be done by the Emirates own Aircraft Engineering Division or by having contracted out to others.

    Reason being it is not very good economics to run purpose built passenger aircraft as make shift freighters, even if you remove all the seats from the passenger cabin, you are still unable to put any cargo of any great significance and weight onto the passenger cabin floor, as the floor is not structurally sound for this, it also needs to be hand loaded, as there is no main cargo door on the passenger deck level.

    It is my belief that all the 777 aircraft that are now due to be retired early by these airline announcements, a very large portion of these 777-200ERs & 777-300ERs should and will be converted into proper freighters, as their will continue to be a exponential demand for airfreight over coming months and years going forward. Airlines cannot and will not want to pay full pricing for a purpose built Boeing 777 freighter, and if my assumption is correct it will certainly be interesting to see what the going rate/price for a well maintained used/secondhand 777 will be as time moves forward.

    Therefore if I was on the board of a major airline (such as Emirates) which just happened to have an outstanding Aircraft Engineering Division, I would be throwing all my time and effort into converting my older 777 aircraft into tomorrows freighters for our own use, &/or on selling them to other airlines, and should demand be high tender to other airlines to convert their 777 aircraft for them.

    The world has now changed for ever for travel, especially from a health and medical perspective, and therefore because of this we have now seen the last of those cheap and affordable travel deals we all once knew, when International travel does finally return to some normality, it will only be for those who can truely afford it or for those who really need to travel for a specific and major reason.

    Thanks for your informative Youtube videos I always enjoy watching them.

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    Solomon W

    August 25, 2020 at 3:23 am

    Emirates will go bust soon

    They have huge fleet that will never return to service, meanwhile they have to fulfill lease payments

    I don’t see any hope for them at all

    They decided to go the Pan Am way, let them enjoy their unhappy ending

    No sympathy with them at all. They created the biggest bubble in aviation history and this will have enormous ramification on the industry

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    Soumyadeep Bhattacharjee

    August 25, 2020 at 7:02 am

    I think it will be a harsh decision for Emirates in this Covid pandemic.

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    radudeATL

    August 25, 2020 at 7:12 am

    Bigger planes could allow for better social distancing *if* economics didn’t matter…

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20. 

    3Love05 CHAN Tsz Yee Alanson (Parent)

    August 25, 2020 at 8:33 am

    I love emirates

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